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the official unofficial nine inch nails frequently asked questions
Copyright 1996, Christopher Sobczak
(C) 1996, Christopher Sobczak
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A...GENERAL NINFORMATION
> 1...What is the 'ninternet'?
2...What does nine inch nails mean?
3a..What is the significance of the Halo numbers?
3b..What nine inch nails albums are out there? (DISCOGRAPHY)
4...Is nine inch nails really only one person?
5...Trent Reznor's Stats
6...Chris Vrenna's Stats
7...Robin Finck's Stats
8...Danny Lohner's Stats
* 9...Charlie Clouser's Stats
10..What equipment does nine inch nails use?
11..What is Trent whispering?
12a.What is nin's connection to the Revolting Cocks?
12b.What is nin's connection to Stabbing Westward?
> 12c.What is nin's connection to Filter?
12d.What is nin's connection to Die Warzau?
> 12e.What is nin's connection to Tori Amos?
12f.What is nin's connection to David Bowie?
12g.What is nin's connection to Ministry?
12h.What is nin's connection to Guns n' Roses?
12i.What is nin's connection to 1,000 Homo DJs?
12j.What is nin's connection to Pigface?
> 12k.What is nin's connection to Curve?
> 13..+++ Reserved for future use +++
14..What's with 'warning: not for use with mono devices'?
> 15..What is 'nothing'?
16..What is 'Le Pig'?
17..Was Trent in a movie?
> 18..What NIN songs have appeared in movies?
> 19..What's the story with 'Natural Born Killers'?
20..Is the band on the Internet?
> 21..What about that live movie?
> 22..Any information about a next album?
> 23..What is this about a funeral home?
> 24..Little tidbits about NIN?
25..How did the band get all muddy at Woodstock?
26..+++ Reserved for future use +++
* 27..Did NIN do the sound effects and soundtrack for the game Quake?
* 28..Is 'a night of nothing' coming somewhere near me?
* 29..Whats up with 'Lost Highway' and the new song?
B...Pretty Hate Machine / Down In It / Head Like a Hole / Sin
1...What's with the extra lyrics that are printed, but not sung?
2...What is _PHM_'s album cover a picture of?
3...What's the difference between Euro and American _HLAH_ and _Sin_?
4...What is that last track on the _HLAH_ single?
5...Where are the samples at the beginning of "get down make love" from?
C...Broken / Fixed
1...What's the differences between all the _Broken_s?
2...Are there any singles off of _Broken_?
* 3...What does "barks and roars: maise" mean in the credits of _Broken_?
4...Is _Fixed_ a limited edition? Why?
5...What is the difference between the import and domestic _Fixed_?
6...Who does the remixes on _Fixed_?
7...What is that 'I could feel that way too' from?
D...The Downward Spiral / March of the Pigs / Closer
1...Why did it take so long?
2...What singles are there off of _TDS_?
3...What is Trent whispering in "Mr Self Destruct"?
E...Further Down the Spiral
1...What is _Further Down The Spiral_?
2...Where are those hidden 'erase me's?
3...What are the differences between Halo 10 and Halo 10v2?
4...When was it released, and on what formats?
5...What is that 'Falls wanking to the floor' from?
F...MISCELLANEOUS ALBUM NINFORMATION
1...Was there a Halo 00?
2...What is this plain-looking CD that claims to be Halo 10?
3...Why is it getting so hard to find the domestic _Closer_?
4...What are the Fisted Box Set and the FTDS Box Set?
G...NINE INCH NAILS VIDEOS
> 1...Ninformation about each officially released video
2...The Broken Movie, Oh My God!
3...How much of "Happiness in Slavery" is real?
4...What was the original video for "March of the Pigs" like?
5...Where was the video for "Hurt" recorded?
6...Why wasn't there ever a video for "Piggy"?
7...Wasn't there a video for "Sin"?
H...THE IMPORTS (bootlegs)
1...What is an import (bootleg)?
2...What imports are worth buying?
3...Which imports should i stay away from?
> 4...Where can i go for more information about bootlegs?
I...THE FAQ'S FAQ
> 1...Who wrote the FAQ?
2...What's all this 'official source of unofficial information' stuff?
3...Where can I get the newest version of the FAQ?
> 4...What's new with the FAQ?
> 5...Who helped out?
6...Legal Stuff (Including *Distribution Information*)
* 7...CONTEST INFO!
KEY= * = New since last release > = Updated since last release
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AUTHORS (because he is the author and he can) SECTION:
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Christopher: Saturday Night. 3am. 1/2 asleep. Drunk. Ready to finish up 4.999
O.K. here it is. The long awaited update to 4.9.. The observant
reader might notice very little change. Well, there were a few nessary
updates made here and there, but the main change in this version is the
addition of Parm to the NINFAQ staff. He is now the Co-Author (Wow, a
co-author who DOES SOMETHING! My prayers have been answered) Anyway, everyone
welcome Parm, and pity him. See, not only does he have to take on about %100
of the workload for awhile (I have been VERY VERY busy l8ly), but he has to
SPELL CHECK this mother. And after I write a section.. woo.. just trust me,
spell checking my writing is no easy task. Anyway, Parm is pratically taking
over for awhile until 5.0 comes out. Speaking of. CHRISTMAS. There. I did it,
I have self imposed a deadline. By 12.24.96 NINFAQ 5.0 will be OUT! But for
now, just enjoy 4.999 and all its updates. Welcome Parm to the booming staff
of THREE people (Parm, Eric, and I) and enjoy the new NINFAQ. BTW: I would like
to point out that you are reading one of (if not THE) finest FAQs on the
internet (if we do say so ourselfs). I've noticed a lack of quality in other
band's FAQs. Whats going on here people? The only other GOOD FAQ I have seen in
the past year or so has been the Sister Machine Gun FAQ. The others all seem
like they were thrown togher. This is annoying. I really would like to find
out a bit more about other bands, but just can't becaus of the crappy FAQs
they have.. Wow.. Anyway, back to the NINFAQ. Umm.. O.K. here it is. Again,
Welcome Parm.. and everyone mail him a congratulations for being able to
put up with my demanding/control freakish ways with my FAQ. It is NO easy task
working with me. Thats for sure
And like I said, CHRISTMAS. I promice. I miss you all alot, and will be back
soon. Don't belive the rumors. Love, Chris.
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Parm, also sat. night..more like sunday morning...real tired:
Hi there. :) I'd just like to take this time to say thanks to Chris for
giving me the opportunity to work on this faq..."Thanks, Chris!". Ok.
I also want to send a big "thank you" out to all the cool-ass people that I
talk to daily on #amnin on irc. You guys have been there for me when I
needed someone to talk to, and are just the coolest collection of people I
have met to date. Y'all rule and stuff. :)
And...more thanks to Sean Beavan for being super-cool when I talked to him
recently. :)
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A:1a "What is the 'ninternet'?"
The ninternet is what us ninnies [read: fans of nine inch nails] call our
section of the internet. Many people have contributed many fine FTP and
WWW sites to the ninternet, and we are not saying those listed are any
better than others, but due to space limitations, we will only be
listing the larger sites for now. In the future we may be able to list all
the known WWW/FTP/IRC sites.
* Hypertext version of FAQ http://www.prairienet.org/konkers/ninfaq.html
Unofficial NIN Homepage http://nothing.nin.net
Bootleg review page http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~cek/
nin_imports.html
Trent Fetish Group alt.sex.fetish.trent-reznor
alt.music.nin info http://www.amnin.com
Hope and Vaseline http://www.nin.net
NIN Usenet Group alt.music.nin.creative
NIN Usenet Group alt.music.nin.d
NIN Usenet Group alt.music.nin
NIN IRC Channel #amnin
NIN IRC Channel #nin
* Has been down for a bit. Should be back up within a few days of the release
of this version.
And now, the nothing records website is partially up and running. There
is a "chat" section where you can read and post messages on many different
subjects relating to nothing records. And according to Jason Patterson, the
coordinator of this project, they are shooting for Dec. 1, 1996 as the day that
the rest of the site opens up to the public. To check out what they already
have up, visit:
http://www.nothingrecords.com
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A:1b "Is Reznor's Edge really Trent's homepage?"
NO. Its just a joke. Take it as such.
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A:2 "What does nine inch nails mean?"
In the words of Trent :
"I don't know if you've ever tried to think of band names, but usually
you think you have a great one and you look at it the next day and it's
stupid. I had about 200 of those. nine inch nails lasted the two-week
test, looked great in print, and could be abbreviated easily. It really
doesn't have any literal meaning. It seemed kind of frightening. [In his
best he-man voice] Tough and manly! It's a curse trying to come up with
band names."
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A:3a "What is the significance of the Halo numbers?"
The Halo numbers appear on every official NIN release. It appears to just
be a numbering system to keep the CDs in order.
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A:3b"What Nine Inch Nails albums are out there? (DISCOGRAPHY)"
Here is a short HALO list. Each album is also described in detail in their
individual sections.
??.??.89 Halo 1 : Down In It (single) *
11.29.89 Halo 2 : Pretty Hate Machine
01.01.90 Halo 3 : Head Like a Hole (single) $
11.27.90 Halo 4 : Sin (single) #
09.16.92 Halo 5 : Broken (EP) !
??.??.92 Halo 6 : Fixed (EP)
03.01.94 Halo 7 : March of the Pigs (single) &%
03.08.94 Halo 8 : The Downward Spiral @
05.30.94 Halo 9 : Closer to God (single) &^
05.30.95 Halo 10v1 : Further Down the Spiral [American Version]
05.30.95 Halo 10v2 : Further Down the Spiral [UK Version]
* The remixes on this were re-released on halo 3
# Contains cover of Queen's "Get Down Make Love"
! Available as the following:
1) Regular 5" w/ bonus tracks on 3" minidisk
2) Regular 5" w/ bonus tracks as tracks 6 & 7
3) Regular 5" w/ bonus tracks as tracks 98 & 99
4) Cassette w/ bonus tracks at end of side 2
5) 12" vinyl w/ bonus tracks on white label 7"
6) 12" vinyl w/ bonus tracks on b side
& Available as 2-disc sets in UK
^ Contains cover of Soft Cell's "Memorabilia"
$ A Halo-less version of HLaH (3 tracks) is available in UK
% Also available on limited edition 9" vinyl
@ Japanese release contained 'Dead Souls' as track 15
In addition to these are the promos for "Piggy" and "Hurt". Although these
aren't official releases, they do have 'halo ten' on them. See section F:2.
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A:4 "Is nine inch nails really only one person?"
Every nine inch nails album to date has been the work of Trent Reznor and
his assistants. Trent incorporates the help of other artists (see album
credits for listing) but has always had total control over his albums.
Live NIN is an entirely different matter. For the first Lollapalooza
tour, Trent supported himself with a very real band, including the late
Jeff Ward from Lard on drums, Chris Vrenna on drums, Richard Patrick on
guitar, and James Woolley on keyboard. Woolley also toured with the live
band during the Self Destruct and Further Down the Spiral tours. The live
NIN lineup changes a lot. At one point it included Martin Atkins; at
another point, in the early days of the band in Cleveland, apparently it
was just Trent, Richard Patrick, and Chris Vrenna.
Recently, Trent has been saying nine inch nails is no longer just him,
but his present band consisting of himself, Chris Vrenna, Robin Finck (see
"Robin Fink's stats" for an update), Danny Lohner, and Charlie Clouser.
James Woolley was with the band until the beginning of 1995, and since
then he has been replaced by Charlie Clouser.
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A:5 "Trent Reznor's Stats"
MUCH MORE than you've ever needed to know about Trent Reznor
Statistics :
Full Name : Michael Trent Reznor
Birthdate : May 17, 1965, at 7:30 a.m. EDST
Address : Louisiana U.S.A.
Height : About 5'6" or 5'7"
Eye Color : Hazel
Hair Color : Dark brown, dyed jet black every six weeks
Status : Single
Pets : Female Golden Labrador Retriever 'Maise'
Hometown : Mercer, Pennsylvania U.S.A.
Religion : Brought up Protestant
Fav. Color : Green
Fav. Candy : Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, Creamy
Tattoos : None
Education : 1 year at Allegheny College
Majors : Computer Engineering & Music
Piercing : Ears and for about a year he had his septum pierced
but it 'was a nightmare when I had a cold'
Family:
Parents : Nancy Clark (Homemaker)
Mike Reznor (Interior Designer/Amateur Bluegrass Musician)
Sister : Tera (Born: @1971, Mother of 2)
Grandfather : Bill Clark (Semi-Retired Furniture Salesman)
Quick over-detailed overview of childhood:
When Trent's parents divorced in the early 1970s, Trent stayed with
his maternal Grandparents (who raised him) and Tera stayed with her mother.
As a child, Trent was in the Boy Scouts, skateboarded, built model planes,
and played the piano (according to his grandfather). Trent's piano teacher
(Rita Beglin) compared Trent's piano playing to Harry Connick Jr. In high
school Trent was clean cut, handsome and popular. He played the tenor sax
and keyboards in his high school jazz and marching bands. He was also voted
best in drama by classmates and performed in local rock bands.
No, he was not abused as a child, and has never claimed to be (even
though it seems to be the fashionable thing to do among people these days).
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A:6 "Chris Vrenna's Stats"
Name : Chris Vrenna
Nickname : Podboy
Hometown : Erie, Pennsylvania
Hair : Naturally brown, dyed blond
Instruments : Drums
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A:7 "Robin Finck's Stats"
Name : Robin Finck
Age : 23
Hair : Black
Instruments : Plays guitars, and some keyboard
Previous Band: A drag-queen act called the Impotent Sea Snakes;
he was a performance artist who ripped up bean bags, painted
on stage, and chainsawed stuff while the band was playing.
**UPDATE** Robin has taken an indefinite leave of absence from NIN to be a
musician in Cirque Du Soleil.
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A:8 "Danny Lohner's Stats"
Name : Danny Lohner
Age : 24
Hometown : Corpus Christi, Texas
High School : Wheeler High
College : University of Texas, Austin Withdrew in Fall 1993
Past Bands : Skrew
Instruments : Bass, guitar, and keyboard
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A:9 "Charlie Clouser's Stats"
Name : Charlie Clouser
Age : 32
Hometown : Middletown, Pennsylvania
College : Hampshire College
Instruments : Keyboard
Has worked w/: White Zombie, Prong, Marilyn Manson, others.
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A:10 "What equipment does nine inch nails use?"
According to Sean Beavan (NIN engineer extraordinaire): (and I quote)
"Here's a brief studio equipment list:
tracking console- amek mozart 56 input automated desk
(with rupert neve modules)
We mix mostly on ssl series g consoles (72 input and up)
and remix on neve vr desks.
Tape machines- 2 studer a 800 mk3's, (3 da88's for live shows)
outboard gear;
neve and ssl stereo compressors
neve mic pre's
pultek eqs
focusrite eqs
summit eqs
la 2a compressors
urie 11 76 compressors
urie la 3a compressors
eventide h3500
eventide h3000
lexicon 300
zoom 9030, and 9050's
assorted delays
1mac quadra 950, 1 mac 2ci
barracuda and pro tools harddrives.
we have three optical drives which store our akai samples
2 akai 1100s
2 akai exs
2 kurzweil k2000s
1 emu e4 (courtesy of emu it's great btw.)
3 minimoogs
2 prophet vs
1 oberhiem expander
1 ppg wave with waveterm
1 arp oddessy
1 doepfer analog sequencer
1 oberhiem analog sequencer
1 ob mx
1 roland mks 80
1 roland r70
marshall jmp 1
assorted gtr pedals and cheap drum machines"
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A:11 "What is Trent whispering?"
In "Sanctified", during the instrumental preceding the final verse, you
will hear a very quiet voice in the background. It is a sample from Oliver
Stone's 'Midnight Express', one of Trent's favorite movies. The sample is
of the main character writing a letter:
"Dear Mom and Dad, this is the hardest letter I've ever had to write. I'd
hoped somehow to get out of this quickly so that you'd never have to know
about it, but that just isn't possible now. I don't know what's going to
happen, but what can I say to you? Will 'I'm sorry' make a difference?
Will it ease the pain? The shame you must be feeling? Forgive me. Please."
Also, as far as whispering goes, about 30 seconds into "Physical", Trent
whispers something. Most people seem to agree that he is whispering "Eat
your heart out, Steve" in reference to Steve Gottlieb, TVT's manager/owner.
This is whispered on this particular song because it is a cover and a hidden
track, and evidently, they had to go through a bunch of copyright bullshit
to be able to release it. (It is well known that Trent and Steve have had
their disputes over copyright laws and over who's in charge.)
Note: The Adam Ant version of "Physical" also has whispering, most
notable at the beginning he says "Eat Your Heart Out, Do-It. You can't
do it, can ya?". Adam Ant was referring to Do-It Records, a label they
were on.
In "Mr Self Destruct" Trent is in fact whispering "I am an exit".
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A:12a "What is nin's connection to the Revolting Cocks?"
Trent is listed as an "Additional Cock" on the inside of the Revolting
Cocks (Al, Paul, and Bill from Ministry, with friends) CD-single for
_Beers Steers And Queers_. Trent is also listed in _Linger Ficken' Good_
under the thanks list (T.R.). Trent toured with RevCo, taking the spot
vacated by Ogre.
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A:12b "What is nin's connection to Stabbing Westward?"
Chris Vrenna went on tour with them for a bit recently.
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A:12c "What is nin's connection to Filter?"
Richard Patrick was Trent's best friend during the Pretty Hate Machine
Tour, and the guitar player for the live show. Many rumors are floating
around about just why Richard left the group, but he now fronts up the
band Filter. About weather Richard is ever going to come back to NIN,
In a recent Spin Magazine (Feb. 1996) Trent is quoted as saying "...
there's been a drunken phone call to me to say hello. And then asking an
ex-girlfriend of mine out on a date. Those guys. In their minds, they're
stars."
As of late, though, it seems that there has been somewhat of a reconciliation
between the two parties. Here is what Brian Liesgang of Filter had to say
about the situation, and "a night of nothing" in New York, as quoted from
Addicted To Noise Magazine:
"We still have mutual friends in NIN. I ran into Trent a few months ago and
we hung and it was cool. We ran into some friends and they told us about
this secret show and invited us to come by and we just did the same old
thing. Trent and Rich and I all have a penchant for Budweiser and tequila,
so we just sat there and drank a while, then Rich said, 'Hey, I want to play
"Head Like a Hole" again,' and Trent said, 'Okay.' Simple as that. It wasn't
any big deal. I thought it was cool. Trent came over to him and said, 'Smash
the fucker.' And he dutifully did it..."
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A:12d "What is nin's connection to Die Warzau?"
Chris Vrenna and James Woolley used to participate in some fashion in the
Chicago-based band Die Warzau. Die Warzau is now no more, thanks to them
scum-sucking fuckbags at TVT.
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A:12e "What is nin's connection to Tori Amos?"
Trent sang backup vocals in Tori Amos' "Past The Mission" on her _Under the
Pink_ CD. However, he does not appear in the video. Another note: even
though she mentions 'nine inch nails' on _Little Earthquakes_, this is not
where Trent got the name for his band. nine inch nails was already in full
effect when this CD came out.
Also, the phrase "...made my own pretty hate machine..." is in the lyrics for
the song "Caught a Light Sneeze" on her new album _Boys For Pele_.
Cool, eh? ;)
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A:12f "What is nin's connection to David Bowie?"
David Bowie's late 70's recordings greatly influenced Trent, especially
during the recording of TDS. David Bowie was sampled for some nine inch
nails songs including the re-mixes of "mr self destruct" (See section
E:5). Trent remixed the song "The Heart's Filthy Lesson" on Bowie's
upcoming album _Outside_. Also, nin toured with David Bowie
on his _Outside_ tour.
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A:12g "What is nin's connection to Ministry?"
Trent and Al Jourgenson both remixed "get down make love" (see section B:6)
for the _sin_ single. Trent and Al were also both in RevCo at the same time
(see section A:11a). Trent and Al were also both part of 1,000 Homo DJs
(See section A:11i).
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A:12h "What is nin's connection to Guns n' Roses?"
Trent and co. opened for GnR shortly after the Lollapalooza tour.
Here is what he had to say about that, quoted from Musician
" ... Axl Rose made contact with us. He was a fan, and wanted to
help out. We were going to Europe to do a tour and figured what better
way to confuse people then to open for Gn'R? Se we did, and the audience
hated us. We were terrified to start with, and then were talking onstage
in front of 65,000 people in Germany. The first song goes okay. Second
song people begin to realize we're not Skid Row, who came on after us.
Third song they'd confirmed the fact that they've heard a synthesizer
and its time to attack. There's something about the sight of every
single person flipping you off in a giant stadium that makes you go
numb. I started laughing, then insulted them with everything I could
think of ... "
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A:12i "What is nin's connection to 1,000 Homo DJs?"
Trent and Al Jourgenson did a cover of Black Sabbath's "supernaut" for
1,000 Homo DJs. But thanks to TVT, Al Jourgenson was forced to take out
Trent's vocals (It was later revealed that Al never did in fact re-sing
"supernaut" for the official 1kHD release, but he just played with Trent's
vocals and told TVT he re-sang it). The original version can be found on
Wax Trax's _Black Box_ 3-disc compilation.
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A:12j "What is nin's connection to Pigface?"
Pigface, the mind-child of drummer and producer Martin Atkins, is
typically dubbed an 'Industrial Super-group' because of its continual
rotating roster of musicians. Trent became involved in the band's first
incarnation on the album _Gub_ to create and sing the original version of
the song "Suck" and is also credited with loops on "The Bushmaster".
Trent and Chris Vrenna toured with Pigface for a while on the "Welcome
To Mexico...Asshole" Tour, and Trent can also be seen on Pigface's
_Glitch_ video singing "Suck" with Nivek Ogre of Skinny Puppy. There
were some rumors of personal turmoil between Pigface and Trent
surrounding Trent's departure from the band, but Atkins claims that
their relationship is "very good. Just like any friendship."
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A:12k "What is nin's connection to Curve?"
Trent and Flood remixed the track 1, "Missing Link", on the
_BlackerThreeTrackerTwo_ EP.
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A:14 "What's with 'warning: not for use with mono devices'?"
Well, according to Trent:
"Regarding the warning for 'mono' devices... Without getting too far in
detail, a scientific property of sound is its 'phase'. When recording
music in stereo, you're supposed to be aware of it's phase. If not,
certain parts of the sound will disappear when its played in mono.
So, we discovered that by messing around with the phase, we could make
elements of the music stand out rather oddly. So...certain songs on _Broken_
we mixed out of phase (because we felt like it) BUT... The songs don't sound
right on mono devices (like some radios or TVs). Has anyone heard "Happiness
in Slavery" on the radio? I heard it on KROQ in LA and the snare drum was
gone through most of the song. (and yes, it kind of destroys the groove!)
So, basically, that's what that means."
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A:15 "What is 'nothing'?"
Located in the Tremont area of Cleveland, Ohio, 'nothing' is Trent
Reznor's record label. With this label, Trent has given many otherwise
obscure bands the notoriety they deserved. Trent treats the bands on
the label with the same respect with which he himself would want to be
treated. According to Marilyn Manson, "Trent gives us full artistic
freedom, the kind of freedom no other label would even consider giving a
band." Sooner or later Trent wants to stop, and just produce. "There's
going to be a point where.. I can't do both things (production and NIN).
I can't do it. I tried. So at some point I would like to focus on
production, which I would really like to do more of, but nine inch nails
eats up every second of my life."
The current list of bands on nothing are:
Marilyn Manson / Pop Will Eat Itself / Coil / Prick / Meat Beat Manifesto/ Pig
Each one of the above bands are incredible, and deserve their own
FAQs, but this is the nine inch nails FAQ. Sorry Reverend Manson, Sir.
Note: Two more bands, "The Wolfgang Press", and "Cop Shoot Cop" (who are
supposedly no more), are rumored to have been added to the label.
More info as we get it.
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A:16 "What is 'Le Pig'?"
Le Pig was Trent's house / recording studio for the making of _The Downward
Spiral_. Trent says that at the time he rented it, he did not know that
this was the same house in which the Manson murders occurred. On a side
note, Marilyn Manson recorded a few tracks off their album _Portrait of an
American Family_ in that house with Trent. It was "something they had wanted
to do for a long time."
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A:17 "Was Trent in a movie?"
In the 1987 movie 'Light of Day', Trent appears with an old Cleveland
based band The Problems. They did a cover of the Buddy Holly song, "True
Love Ways". Yes, that's him playing the tilted keyboard on the left
(you can see him for a few seconds when they show Joan Jett at the table)
and then again later that's him with the drink taking down the set.
(This scene occurs about 1 hour and 17 minutes into the movie.)
"True Love Ways" does not appear on the 'Light of Day' Soundtrack.
And well, no, that was not him in 'The Crow' crowd surfing to My Life With
The Thrill Kill Kult.
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A:18 "What NIN songs have appeared in movies?"
As far as I know...
An edit of the _Fixed_ remix of "Gave Up" appeared at the beginning of
'Young Americans'.
"Burn", "A Warm Place" and an extended "Something I Can Never Have" were
in 'Natural Born Killers' (Trent also put together the whole movie's
soundtrack, see section A:17).
"Head Like a Hole" was in a movie called 'Prayer of the Roller Boys'.
"Dead Souls", a cover of the Joy Division song by the same name, is featured
in 'The Crow' movie and on the soundtrack.
"Head Like a Hole" was also in the movie 'Class of 1999 ]['
"Closer (precursor)", a remix of "Closer" which appears on Halo 9, is
featured during the opening credits of the movie 'Seven'.
"Closer to God", "Closer (internal)", "The Art of Self Destruction
part I", and possibly another mix of either song appear in the movie
'The Fan'.
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A:19 "What's the story with 'Natural Born Killers'?"
When shown an edit of Oliver Stone's 'Natural Born Killers', Trent
decided to produce the soundtrack. To do this Trent sampled over 80
songs and made a very diverse soundtrack that included 3 NIN tracks,
"Something I Can Never Have", "A Warm Place" And "Burn".
And this past summer, "Natural Born Killers" Director's Cut was released,
including over an hour of never before seen, unedited footage. The
video for "Burn" is also included in this two-tape set.
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A:20 "Is the band on the Internet?"
From Metal Hammer magazine:
Chris Vrenna says "We're on Internet, but not a professional site yet,
but Trent has a private Internet address, and I'm on-line."
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A:21 "What about the live movie?"
According to Formula PR, there are no plans at this time to release the
live movie that was supposed to be out this past Christmas. While this
does not state that is will *never* be completed, I wouldn't go getting
your hopes up.
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A:22 "Any information about a next album?"
Well, as of 11-13-96, not much is known about the next full-length release,
other than it is not entitled "Impossible Pain" (see section A:1b)
The following info is some older info that was in previous releases of the
faq...as soon as more info is learned, it will be updated.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Once again, Sean Beavan:
"Trent is starting to write. But nothing has been written in stone about
the next record after the live album (which Trent and I are producing). All
I know is that Trent and I are working on it and that we just hired our
favorite assistant from the record plant, Brian Pollock, to do the
assistant engineering chores at our new studio. Alan Moulder could be back
to mix something for us. We love him and he works well with the team."
And (even newer) According to Robin Finck (as told to Stark's Puppy):
"Before their holiday vacations, the band was working on looking over
and putting together what had been recorded on the NiN/Bowie tour. They're
still unsure, however, what will be released and in what form. The duet on
"Hurt," however, is going to be released in some form or another (possible
b-side for a single). There has been no real work done as of yet on a new
studio album."
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A:23 "What is this about a funeral home?"
Trent and Co. have bought a funeral home in New Orleans and converted it
into a studio. So far, Manson, Pantera, and others have used it for their
albums. Also, NIN recorded the Quake soundtrack there.
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A:24 "Little tidbits about NIN"
Here are some little miscelaneous unconfirmed titbits...
- *EVERY* NIN show (on the spiral tours) was taped and filmed
- In the Super Nintendo game 'Super Mario World' they have an animal
called the Reznor.
- There is a heater company called 'Reznor Heaters'.. The company's
founders are Trent's ancestors.
NOTE: Robin wrote me a whole section about this, and it will be
included SOON.
- A parody band, Nine Inch Richards, did a song called "Closer to Hogs"
which is a parody of NIN's "Closer". Nine Inch Richards is in no way
related to NIN.
- That is Richard Patrick's brother playing the T-1000 on Terminator ][
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A:25 "How did the band get all muddy at Woodstock?"
According to Trent (Quoted from Rip magazine):
"We were right out by the big mud pit and watchin' everybody, I thought,
'well, this looks like a lot of fun.' At that time there wasn't that many
people that were muddy, but the people that *were* in the mud looked like
they were having a great time and we thought 'fuck, y'know, we kinda can't
actually do that.' But we didn't have showers backstage at that time
either, so we went back and hung out backstage, and it was just a real
nervous day. Then on the way to the stage I pushed Danny [Lohner], our
guitar player, and he just fell face-first into the mud. Then he tackled
me and it turned into a kind of all-male mud wrestling thing. It was
actually really funny. After we did that, all nervousness kind of
subsided."
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A:27 "Did NIN do the sound effects and soundtrack for the game Quake?"
Yup. And here's a nice little review that Jody Match (jodym@gte.net) wrote
up:
"In the style of such games as Doom and Heretic, Quake is a highly addictive
3D virtual game shown from the viewpoint of the player. It is brought to
us by Id Software, Inc. The graphics have improved greatly from the
Wolfenstein 3D days. The monsters are more fun and the weapons have
improved. The multiplayer feature, which can either be used as Deathmatch
(player vs. player) or Co-op (players vs. the bad guys), is a whole lot of
fun. One of the most noted features of this game is the background music,
written and produced by Trent Reznor and nine inch nails. The music can be
described as ambient and certainly adds to the mood of the game. It provides
for an ominous feeling throughout the game. If you're expecting "typical" NIN
music, you will be dissapointed. There are no lyrics, though there is what
seems to be some whispering, but I have yet to figure any of it out.
Alone, the music is very relaxing, not the pumped up NIN that we have grown
to be used to. The best part about it is that you do not have to purchase
the full version of Quake in order to have the music. The shareware
version can be found for as low as $5.99, and some software stores offer it
for only $.50 with the purchase of another game. There are 11 tracks on
the cd, the first one of course being the data for the game. The following
10 are music. There are no names listed for the tracks. Another amusing
feature in the game is the new weapons - the Nailgun and the Perforator (or
the Super Nail Gun) both affectionately refered to as the "Nine Inch Nail
guns." The ammo boxes have the classic rectangular "NIN" logo on them.
The game is highly recommended, but be warned, you may feel symptoms of
vertigo if you play too long and there's a great chance of addiction!"
There you have it.
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A:28 "Is 'a night of nothing' coming somewhere near me?"
Nope. There were only three of those shows (New Orleans, New York
City, and Atlanta). This was a very limited tour around the beginning
of September which basically focused on the NY date, as it was Nothing
Records Night at Irving Plaza, in conjunction with the CMJ festival. The
lineup was a collection of various bands on the Nothing label, including
Meat Beat Manifesto, Marilyn Manson, Prick, Pop Will Eat Itself, and
nine inch nails, w/ Kevin McMahon.
Reviews and other info can be found in the newest edition of H&V at
http://www.nin.net.
Parm's note: I went to the New York one. It kicked major booty.
------------------------------
A:29 "What's up with 'Lost Highway' and the new song?"
Trent has put together the soundtrack for Twin Peaks creator David Lynch's
new movie, Lost Highway. On it will be the movie's score by Angelo
Badalamenti, as well as two Marilyn Manson tracks (Apple of Sodom and I Put
A Spell On You), songs from David Bowie and Lou Reed, new Smashing Pumpkins,
and, you guessed it, a brand spankin' new NIN song titled "the perfect drug",
which will be released to radio stations January 20, 1997. The soundtrack
is tenatively scheduled to be released on February 11th, 1997. The single for
"the perfect drug" will be out in march or april, and might possibly be in
EP format.
Note: KROQ in LA has recieved a copy of "the perfect drug", and played it for
the first time on Friday November 22, 1996. This is not the actual
release day, but rather a promotional thing of sorts...
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B:1 "What's with the extra lyrics that are printed, but not sung?"
According to Trent:
"There were some lyrics that I had written that I couldn't fit into
the songs as I was combining lyrics with music. I included them because
I like them and also because they could be discovered by the person that
took the time to read the lyrics."
Some of these lyrics were used in the original version of "Ringfinger"
called "Twist". See section H:2 for more info.
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B:2 "What is _PHM_'s album cover a picture of?"
Once again, I quote from Trent:
"The cover of _PHM_ is a photo of the blades of some sort of turbine
stretched vertically so they would look somewhat like bones or a ribcage."
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B:3 "What's the difference between Euro and American _HLAH_ and _Sin_?"
The American release of _HLAH_ has 4 mixes of the song (slate, clay,
copper, and soil) as well as instrumental "You Know Who You Are", 3
versions of "Down In It" (shred, singe, and demo), and 2 mixes of
"Terrible Lie" (sympathetic and empathetic). The UK release only has
3 tracks: the slate and copper mixes, and one that didn't make it to
the American release: the Opal mix. The UK version of _Sin_ comes in
a black, instead of red, case, but the tracks are the same (they're
in a different order, however).
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B:4 "What is that last track on the _HLAH_ single?"
Track 11 on Halo 3 (the woman yelling "Let's hear it for nine inch nails --
woo they're GOOD!") was from a nin appearance on Dance Party USA. Apparently
the yelling woman was the show's host.
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B:5 "Where are the samples at the beginning of "get down make love" from?"
And again, Sean Beavan:
"I think the sample at the beginning of "get down make love" is from an old
viacom cable access show called 'Video Psychotherapy'... That sample along
with the Japanese porno samples were added in Chicago with Al Jourgenson.
I did only the basic track recordings in Cleveland. Those samples were
added during the mix."
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C:1 "What's the difference between all the _Broken_s?"
Well, _Broken_ was released in many formats:
a.As the 5" CD with the six named tracks, enclosed with a smaller,
3" CD with the bonus tracks.
b. As the 5" CD with tracks 1-6 as the normal songs, tracks 7-97
each one second long and blank, tracks 98-99 as the bonus tracks.
c. As the 5" CD with tracks 1-6 as the normal songs and tracks 7 and
8 as the bonus stuff.
d. As the 5" CD with only 1-6 being the normal songs, without the
bonus tracks entirely. This form is the result of lame record-store
owners taking out the 3" to sell separately, leaving them with a 6
track broken to sell separately. There never was a 6 track broken
produced.
Now, _Broken_ is produced as the 1-6, 98-99 track CD and I imagine it will
stay this way.
If, on the other hand, you purchased _Broken_ on vinyl, that the EP itself
(the six normal tracks) were on standard 12" vinyl, while the bonus tracks
were a black label 7". Another form of the _Broken_ vinyl has tracks 1-6
on side a and the bonus tracks on side b.
The names of the bonus tracks are "Physical", which was originally written
and performed by Adam Ant, and "Suck".
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C:2 "Are there any singles off of _Broken_?"
No. There are promos for _Broken_, but no singles. _Fixed_ is the only
_Broken_ follow-up CD, and it consists of remixes of _Broken_ songs. It
was released as a single, yet is not considered to be one... for the
following reasons... [see next section]
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C:3 "What does "barks and roars: maise" mean in the credits of _Broken_?"
Well, during the song "physical (you're so), Trent's dog, Maise, can be
heard barking, but very slowed down. And at 3:49 in the song, if you can
somehow speed the recording up (by using a soundcard, adjustable speed cd
player, etc.), you can hear something to the effect of "....ow!....
fucker!...". That was Maise bitting none other than Sean Beavan, and his
reaction afterwards.
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C:4 "Is _Fixed_ a limited edition? Why?"
Sort of. The Domestic printing was limited originally. Couple things,
however: A typical release of a "limited edition" of anything would be
1000-2000 copies. For _Fixed_, it's heard that as many as 50,000 copies
were released domestically. As of late, imports off Island/TVT have been
proliferating the mainstream stores.
There are a few theories as to why _Fixed_ is limited. One holds that
_Fixed_ was kept limited in order to not interfere with the MTV-inspired
success of _Broken_, and will be re-issued in about a year as a non-limited.
It is now around import-wise. Also, collectors LOVE limiteds. Also, maybe
they just thought it wouldn't sell well. It was also just a "single".
All singles have limited runs.
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C:5 "What is the difference between the import and domestic _Fixed_?"
Well, the import version CD is printed with a few more copyright notices,
etc.. and the color used is a light bluish type paint. In contrast, the
domestic version was printed with less copyright notices on the CD, and
the N is a cool shiny blue.
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C:6 "Who does the remixes on _Fixed_?"
Coil remixes "Gave Up"; Jim G. Thirwell (he's also the voice on MTV Sports)
remixed "Wish" into "Wish (remix)" and "Fist Fuck"; Trent Reznor, Chris
Vrenna and Butch Vig remixed "Suck" and "Last" into "Throw This Away"; PK
remixed "Happiness in Slavery"; Reznor, Vrenna and a slew of others
mutilated "Happiness in Slavery" into "Screaming Slave"
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C:7 "What is that 'I could feel that way too' from?"
The quote (found half way through _Fixed_'s "Fist Fuck") "I could feel that
way too ... I bet you will someday" is sampled from the musical Show Boat.
Kathryn Grayson as Nolie Hawks and Ava Gardner as Julie LaVerne were the
actresses, and this scene occurs about 28 minutes into the movie.
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D:1 "Why did it take so long?"
In the words of Trent:
"I tend to get bored when people start saying, `Where's the record
already?' Hey, I'm not fucking off in there. It just takes a long time.
Nirvana may be able to make a record in two weeks. That's great. We're
not doing that. To me, every song means reinventing the whole process.
There are no constants except maybe that I'll sing it. But are the rhythm
tracks going to be played or sequenced? Are they going to be real, fake,
machines, drums, sounds, car doors slamming? It's not a simple matter of
yelling out chords to someone across the room and starting the tape
machine. It's a different situation. I'm not saying that makes my record
any better than theirs. It's just a different set of parameters."
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D:2 "What singles are there off of _TDS_?"
_The Downward Spiral_ has produced 2 singles to date, _March of the Pigs_
and _Closer to God_. Both have American and European releases with no major
track differences, and the following subtle changes:
Both European CDs come in 2-CD sets, with each CD sold separately,
and the Euro _Closer_ has no halo number.
"Big Man With a Gun" was included in the Euro release of _MOTP_.
The cover art for disk one is red/pink like the American, but
disk two has blue cover art.
The Euro _Closer_ is similar to the American except for the cover art, in
which the Euro cover has a larger, 'opened' millipede as opposed to the
American's smaller, 'closed' millipede.
Also is the follow up album, _Further Down the Spiral_. Check out
section E for information
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D:3 "What is trent whispering in 'Mr Self Destruct'?"
According to Sean Beavan, Trent whispers "I am an exit" right after
the words "You let me do this to you"
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E:1 "What is _Further Down the Spiral_?"
It's the follow up album to _The Downward Spiral_, much like what _Fixed_
was to _Broken_, this album consists of 11 remix tracks. The UK version
has 10. See section E:3.
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E:2 "Where are those hidden 'erase me's?"
If you listen to track eleven ("Erased, Over, Out") in fast forward, you
will hear Trent screaming 'erase me' over and over. Also, on track 6
("Eraser (Denial; Realization)") he says it twice: once at the beginning,
and then again once toward the end.
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E:3 "What are the differences between Halo 10 and Halo 10v2?"
Version 1 was the American release, while version 2 was the UK/Japan
release. The UK version has 4 tracks different from the American:
"heresy (version)", "ruiner (version)", "self destruction, part three" and
"hurt (live)". The first two are remixes by Charlie Clouser; the latter
is the live recording used in the video for the track by the same name.
Another difference is production. The American version was packaged in
a jewel, on a glossy disk. The UK version was packaged in a cardboard
sleeve on a lower quality, low gloss CD. Apparently the Japanese version
has the same track listing as v2 (and indeed has v2 on the disk) but has
been released with a bonus track - "Reptilian" (just as _TDS_ in Japan
has "Dead Souls" as a bonus track). The packaging is cardboard, same as the
UK, but the disk is a better quality, glossy type.
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E:4 "When was it released, and on what formats?"
Halo 10 was officially released May 23, 1995 on all the standard formats:
Vinyl, CD, and Cassette. However, most stores did not get it until a week
later.
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E:5 "What is that 'Falls wanking to the floor' from?"
About 4:30 into "self destruction, part two" you hear David Bowie singing
'Falls wanking to the floor'. This is a sample from the song "Time" off his
1973 album _Aladdin Sane_.
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F:1 "Was there a Halo 00?"
No, this is a bootleg. And it's not worth the price when you can get
one of the 2 tracks on WaxTrax! _The Blackbox_
(Trent/Al Jourgenson's cover of Black Sabbath's classic "Supernaut")
(See section H:2 for info on where else to get these songs)
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F:2 "What is this plain-looking CD that claims to be Halo 10?"
You probably have the promo CD for either "Piggy" or "Hurt". These were
two promos that were put out with halo numbers on them.
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F:3 "Why is it getting so hard to find the domestic _Closer_?"
Well, they are out of production in America. You can still get the imported,
double CD set fairly easily though.
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F:4 "What are the Fisted Box Set and the FTDS Box Set?"
The Fisted Box Set is just a cheaply made bootleg. It has a cheap t-shirt,
some cheaper buttons, and some still in-print cd singles. Everyone who has
bought it, even the most die-hard nin collector, has said it's a major waste
of money. This also can be said for the FTDS box set, an overpriced tin can
which contains Halo 10v2 and 3 cheaply made buttons (n,i,n).
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G:1 "Ninformation about each officially released video"
"Down In It"
Down in It, Trent and Co.'s first video, for some reason is never
shown on MTV in its original form. See, in the original video, Trent
falls off the building he is walking on, and is shown dead, apparently
for a few days. Anyway, this video somehow got into the hands of the
FBI, who spent a few weeks looking for the makers of this 'SNUFF FILM'
as it was thought to be when it was found. Ironically enough, Trent
(the dead guy) was also in hiding, recording _Broken_ under false band
names so TVT wouldn't know what he was doing. The censored version is
pretty much the same thing, with the scenes of 'dead trent' taken out.
"Head Like a Hole"
A 'live' video in which the band is in a cage-like stage. Toward the end
the band is overtaken by the surroundings, resulting in an upside-down
suspended Trent. This video was released in 2 versions: one being the
standard, and one being the Flood remix.
"Pinion"
DATE RELEASED : Feb. 1992
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson
Pinion is what Alternative Nation ripped off. It basically starts off
with a toilet being flushed, then you follow the flushed water down the
plumbing until it gets to the mouth of a bound man being tortured.
"Wish"
DATE RELEASED : Feb. 1992
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson
Wish is another 'live' video, this one is in an elaborate caged-in
'stage' in which the audience is trying to get to the band through the
cage. At the end of the un-edited version, they finally break through
and get Trent.
"Happiness in Slavery"
DATE RELEASED : 1992
DIRECTOR : Jonathan Reiss
This video has never been seen on MTV for very obvious reasons. The video
contains a man (Bob Flanagan--READ: Section G:3) being tortured to death
by his own free will. At the end, Trent comes in for his turn. It is a
must see video, shot all in black and white.
"March of the Pigs"
DATE RELEASED : March 1994
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson / Trent Reznor
March of the Pigs was a very low budget, thrown together live performance
of the track. Very Good video.
"Closer"
DATE RELEASED : June 1994
DIRECTOR : Mark Romanek
Closer was nine inch nails' 'breakthrough' video. Much of it was filmed
on old 1920s' file Trent acquired. It was put out in 2 versions: MTV's
censored with 'scene missing' in place of some of the more explicit
shots, and the uncensored version
"Burn"
DATE RELEASED : August 24, 1994
DIRECTOR : Hank Corwin / Trent Reznor
Burn is a video for the soundtrack of 'Natural Born Killers', the video
contains many scenes from the movie, and Trent singing in a white tee-shirt
and jeans.
(see section A:18 for more info)
"Hurt"
DATE RELEASED : March 1995
DIRECTOR : Simon Maxwell
Hurt is nine inch nails' most recent video. It is a live video, shot in
Omaha/Dallas (See Section G:4). The backdrop contains footage of
rapidly decaying animals, predators, and old World War ][ footage.
Apparently the video for "Sin" was not released because of some more
TVT legal problems. The video was released to certain dance clubs though.
A long-form video of _Broken_ (See G:2) was made by Trent and Peter
Christopherson.
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G:2 "The Broken Movie, Oh My God"
Yes, that is the common first reaction to this film. Trent Reznor made
this with Peter Christopherson for the _Broken_ EP. The film shows a
kidnapped man being forced to watch nine inch nails videos while being
graphically tortured and killed by a masked madman.
Why was it never officially released? According to Trent, he didn't want
the press on his ass trying to get him to explain it. Plain and simple.
And NO, it is not real. It was filmed to look like a snuff film, which
apparently worked very well considering how many people have asked if
it was real or not. Score one for Trent/Peter.
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G:3 "How much of "Happiness in Slavery" is real?"
The late Bob Flanagan was a rather famous S&M performance artist. He had
done stuff much worse than that shown on "HiS". In fact, pretty much the
only thing that was fake on the video was when he was actually killed.
Note: Bob Flanagan recently succumbed to Cystic Fibrosis, the disease from
which he suffered since childhood. He was a great man who contributed a lot
to Cystic Fibrosis research. Read about him in the book 'RESEARCH:
Bob Flanagan'
Yes: That penis/nipple pulling/testicle clamping is all real.
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G:4 "What was the original video for "March of the Pigs" like?"
According to a cameraman who works on NIN videos:
" ... I'm not talking about the video where it's just one shot, one take,
live recording in the 'white' room video, I worked on the one by Peter
Christopherson .... You'll have to excuse me because it was a real real
long time ago since I worked on it ... We shot it in two days around the
end of January 1994. The thing was, I don't think we shot everything we
were supposed to ... you see, there was supposed to be a third day of
production ... never happened! What we did shoot was stuff with the
entire band (not just Trent) in various 'dark' situations. Essentially
trashing instruments and other items along the way. We did a lot of
'dutch' angles, a lot of fast-paced stuff ... all in all, to me, it
seemed like an angry, aggressive, Evil Dead II meets Hellraiser mini-
movie ... a lot of hanging chains and always a watered-down set ...
but, I don't know if it was ever cut together, or if it is in somebody's
closet somewhere..."
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G:5 "Where was the video for "Hurt" recorded?"
The video for "Hurt" was recorded before the show in Omaha, Nebraska on
February 13, 1995 and Dallas, Texas on February 11, 1995. Some concert-goers
were let in a half hour or so sooner to be the audience. Apparently the
reason for this is to keep the audience noise to a minimal level, especially
considering that in concert "Happiness in Slavery" and "Eraser" are before
"Hurt", and this makes for one wild/loud crowd. Why is he wet in the video?
He probably doused himself with water.
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G:6 "Why wasn't there ever a video for "Piggy"?"
Welp, According to Trent:
"We tried to make a video for Piggy, but all the directors I talked to
...their ideas just *sucked*"
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G:7 "Wasn't there a video for "Sin"?"
Trent's been quoted saying that they did make one, but that TVT fucked
it up so bad with censoring that he took the tapes home, and never bothered
with the video again. Another rumor going around is it was released to some
clubs for awhile.
According to Senor Homepage himself (Jason Patterson):
"... i asked him about this-- he said they can't find the sin video...
they've looked for it but have lost it."
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H:1 "What is an import (bootleg)?"
On average, an import (bootleg) is an album pressed (CD/LP) in a foreign
country (Italy, Germany and England are common imports) to get around the
copyright laws. I don't know exactly why they can get away with it, but
imports often have copyrighted material (be it a live show, rare recorded
songs, and sometimes full length recorded albums). Bootlegs range in quality
from soundboard (when the soundman lets the bootlegger record directly off
the soundboard to make a near perfect sounding recording) to low quality
crowd recordings (some guy in the audience with a cassette recorder). Some
bootlegs are excellent and make great additions to your nin collection.
Some are total rip-offs, which brings us to the next topic...
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H:2 "What imports are worth buying?"
In my opinion, there are 2 main imports that are well worth buying:
_Purest Feeling_ and _Demos and Remixes_.
_Purest Feeling_ is a full length album of demos for _Pretty Hate Machine_
recorded by Trent. It is unknown how these demos got out, but they make a
great addition to any collection. PF also contains 2 unreleased tracks:
"Maybe Just Once" and "Purest Feeling". Some people hate these songs, some
love them. You decide. Another thing about PF is it has the original lyrics
to "Ringfinger". (see section B:1 for more info)
_Demos and Remixes_ is another compilation of rare/unreleased tracks.
These include the original "Supernaut" (Trent's unaltered vox) and
"Suck" live (which cover the infamous Halo 00 (see section F:1)), and
"Twist", the original "Ringfinger". Also on this disc is the Go-Go Mix
of "Head Like a Hole" (referred to as the Opal Mix on the UK HLAH single),
and -- you guessed it -- demos and remixes of PHM songs.
A good quality import.
2 other decent imports that come to mind are Rusty Nails 1 and 2 (Non-Stop
mega mixes of NIN songs, worth the price of a used import maybe).
As far as the live stuff is concerned, there are so many out there that
there is no room to list it all here. Definitely check out the Import
page (See section H:4) before you buy any live recordings so you don't get
screwed into buying a shitty sounding CD.
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H:3 "Which imports should I stay away from?"
The main imports to avoid are crappy sounding live shows. Always check
the import page (See section H:4) before buying any live recordings. Other
imports to steer clear of are Purest Feeling ][, Halo 00, and Slaves (to
name the first 3 to come to mind).
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H:4 "Where can I go for more information about bootlegs?"
The place to go for bootleg reviews, track listings, dates, and even
order numbers is http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~cek/nin_imports.html.
This page replaces the older bootleg list that Jerry maintained called
"Seething Animosity". It contains everything that the old page had and
more, and it pretty much remains "the best source of NIN imports on the
net."
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I:1 "Who wrote the FAQ?"
The NINFAQ was written by Christopher Sobczak and David Parmenter.
Sections have been written and contributed to the FAQ by members of
Alt.Music.Nin
Full Name : Christopher Brian Sobczak
E-mail : nothing@prairienet.org
Full Name : David Allen Parmenter
E-mail : daveparm@student.umass.edu
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I:2 "What's all this 'official source of unofficial information' stuff?"
O.K. Well we (Sean and Chris) came to the conclusion that it would be much
better to stay independent (this way we don't have to take shit from
anyone ). So anyway, nothing records, formula public relations and
the band members do contribute information to the faq, but it is not an
official product of nine inch nails. It is, as Sean put it, 'the official
source of un-official information about nine inch nails' and that is just
how it will stay. The authors are in no way affiliated with Nothing records
other than we are always bugging them for information . What
will the future hold? We have no idea.
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I:3 "Where can I get the newest version of the FAQ?"
Here is a distribution list.
Usenet:
alt.music.nin : Posted every other day under
the heading '** NIN FAQ v#.# **'
The FAQ is posted to the following bases once a month:
alt.answers / rec.answers / news.answers / rec.music.industrial
WWW:
http://nothing.nin.net/ninfaq.html
FTP:
ftp://ftp.mcs.com/mcs.users/jimkelly
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I:4 "What's new with this FAQ?"
Well, I, David Parmenter, came on as the new co-author, and I basically
just added the most up to date information that I could, such as the
Quake and Lost Highway info, etc. Oh yeah...I spel cheked teh howle
dokumint, 2. ;)
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I:5 "Who helped out?"
- .... . . .-.. .. - . -.-. .-.. .. --.- ..- . --- ..-. .- -- -.
EVERYONE on alt.music.nin. Without them NONE of this would have ever
happened. Here is a list of the people who have gone above and beyond
the call of duty, and helped out even more. I started this list late,
and sometimes forget to write down names. PLEASE, if you feel you were
left out (I KNOW I LEFT OUT MANY!!) E-Mail ME with your hate letters, and
tell me how you want to be listed below. I'm sorry to everyone I left out;
I tried to make it as thorough as possible, but I'm bound to fuck up.
Also, many people have told me very important stuff, and given me great
quotes or interviews. I wish I could have given them credit for their
individual contributions, but that would take away from the format. I
just want you to know, it is REALLY appreciated!
A special thanks to all the ninnies who nit pick and debate over every
single fact, figure, typo, and cum stain in the FAQ. Without you this
would have been easy, but the faq wouldn't be as awesome as it is ;)
Parm's note: ditto what Chris said. :)
I N C O M P L E T E
C R E D I T S
The following list is in alphabetical order
Lily Anderson..........Hurt and piggy information, lots of other information
Sean Beavan...........Lots and lots and lots and loads of help. great advice
Adam Bender.....................Countless bits of info and corrections, head
Brian Berkovitz.......................Use of his computer, food, and cd's ;)
Jackie Berry.............................M. Tormei impersonations, and stuff
Melissa A. Boysen......................Tori info, keeper of the trent shrine
Christine Bomke.................Lots of information and the A.M.N. necklaces
Jeremy C. Bunag..........................Trent reznor's official jizz mopper
Donna L. Cross.........Future donna l. stark, the *ONE* person behind nincon
Nathan Dewitt...........................................Adam ant information
Andy Fitzgerald..............Reminded me to change the n's in the title page
Eric Freitag.....................Curve remix info, use of his computer, beer
Sean Galbraith.......................................Thanks for the memories
Gnat..........................Awesome little bug see also natira hammerstrom
Jason Haas.....................He took the ninfaq, and made it the SMG faq:)
Natira Hammerstrom..........Her and that kid wrote the whole pigface section
Amy Hanauer....................................Support, info, and being cool
Mike Katzberg.......................Ideas, transcribing interviews, research
Keaven Keating.................Those great quotes about the broken movie/HiS
Jeremy Kennedy..............................Info on euro _motp_ and _closer_
Scott Kenney...........................The FAQ FAQ, distribution information
C-ko Linde.........................The use of her penis for the nincon video
Kenneth Little....................Broken. lots and lots of cool ninformation
Lisa Livingston............Various cool bits of info, support, dragon sounds
LOgre2'3..............Looking up that david bowie stuff, and some other shit
Madeleine...........................Robin information, other misc info, help
Jody Match................................Quake info, Loads of help, support
Taylor McLaren................He has lots of access to bread, so he is happy
Mippy....................Thanks so much for posting the faq to amn regularly
Kyle Moyer....................................Ah, he's just a buttknocker :)
Robin C. Moore....................Support, our resident reznor heater expert
Steph Nahas................Whole mic section, misc help, support, prick info
David Parmenter...........................................Nothing whatsoever
Jason Patterson..................'The unofficial nin homepage', big ass sigs
Robert Peterson............I lied, he, err, i am the author of this fine faq
Alex Reed................................Misc information, i dunno what else
Trent Reznor..................He did something i think, i forgot what though
Buck Satan................Did about as much as bunag, and less then peterson
Gabe Shaw................1st #amnin shirt owner, Too Far Gone frontman, info
Ben Simko...............................................Charlie Clouser info
SiGHeR............................Checking this in his classes, lots of help
Matt Snoddy...........................................Cool faq-poster guy :)
Jim Stark.............................Future mister donna cross. amn faq guy
Kathleen Tibbetts....... 'Hope and vaseline', show boat info, dance usa info
Damin J. Toell..........................Live album info, owner of "the fist"
Raphael Veit....................................Info on the japanese halo 10
Chris Wiberg.............Support, pages and pages of information, legal help
Kristian Zoerhoff...........The halo list? he wrote the whole original thing
- .... . . .-.. .. - . -.-. .-.. .. --.- ..- . --- ..-. .- -- -.
EVERYONE ELSE ON ALT.MUSIC.NIN WHO HELPED! YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!
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I:6 "Legal stuff"
DISTRIBUTION INFORMATION: PLEASE READ
The Nine Inch Nails Frequently Asked Questions file is Copyright 1995
by Christopher Brian Sobczak, (C) 1995 Christopher Sobczak. This FAQ, or
parts thereof, may not be reproduced in any form without permission.
It is very easy to get the author's permission to use this FAQ. All
you have to do is E-Mail, Write, or Call us at the above addresses or
phone number (section I:1). We have never turned anyone down. The only
reason we require that you get in contact with us is for our personal
records as to who has used this FAQ.
Please pay attention to this rule. It doesn't require much effort, and
it is the law (international copyright laws) that you get the author's
(me) permission BEFORE using any copywritten (this faq) material.
The FAQ loosely follows a standard FAQ format. Any similarities to
any other Frequently Asked Questions file is purely coincidental. There
are other nine inch nails FAQs in circulation and they are in NO WAY
related to this FAQ.
All bands listed in this FAQ are trademarked/copyrighted/owned by their
specific labels/artist. All videos/films are owned/copyrighted by their
specific film companies.
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I:7 "Contest info!"
There will be a really damn cool contest in version 5.0. Be on the lookout.
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Rest In Peace MAISE & ROCKY and all the other irreplaceable pets of ninnies
Bambi the Wonder Rabbit, Rocky, Sparky, Mouse, Clover, Sharpe, Hexal, Rex,
Rocky, Boo Boo, Penny, T.C.,, Tweety, Snowy, Maggie, Samson (Son of Sam),
Bandit, Fred, Joshie, Sundown, Taffy, Trent the TerrorGothBat, Sofia, Mojo,
and Sherlock.
RIP Bob Flanagan
Extra Thanks goes out to Sean Beavan for all his help and putting up with me
Parm's note: Me too. ;)
COPYRIGHT 1996, Christopher Sobczak
(C) 1996, Christopher Sobczak
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