From mailer.acns.fsu.edu!usenet.ufl.edu!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!umn.edu!gold!eric0144 Mon Jun 13 12:32:34 1994 Newsgroups: alt.music.nin Path: mailer.acns.fsu.edu!usenet.ufl.edu!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!caen!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!umn.edu!gold!eric0144 From: eric0144@gold.tc.umn.edu (Carl V Erickson) Subject: Re: Reptile whispers, anyone got a clue? Message-ID: Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: gold2.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities References: <2ta16q$pk8@news.ysu.edu> <2tf6t4$mbn@aludra.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 06:16:47 GMT Lines: 67 In <2tf6t4$mbn@aludra.usc.edu> payn@aludra.usc.edu (Koenig Feurio) writes: >OK, first of all, I just listened to Reptile 100,000 million times, and >I'm pretty sure it's "He is laughing at us," or possibly "He's laughing >at us." I'm almost positive that last two syllables are "at us," not >"to us" (although "lying to us" does seem to fit the song more than >"laughing at us," it just doesn't sound right). I'm pretty sure that >whoever suggested that possibility was right, but just to be sure, >let's listen to the rest of the song and see if the phrase recurs. Or, >better yet.... >So now I've pulled out Halo 7 to see if the Dave Ogilvie's >"reconstructions" can help us at all, but it just gives me more puzzles. >Around 3 minutes into "Reptilian," is he saying something? What is it? No >clue on this end.... At around 4:53 or so, there are definitely words. >I have no clue what they are on first listen. Next, at the "Oh my >beautiful liar" at 6 minutes, there are some frantic words buried in >the noise, through the next few lines. Then, the "da dat da dat" thing >starting at 6:30 or so resolves itself into something else, which may >be some actual words, at 6:45 or so. For that matter, in the album >version, what does it resolve into before it becomes "no no no," and >does the "no no no" line ever change to something else? Anyway, back to >Reptilian. At 7:09 and 7:23, is that "Get out" or something similar, and >is "get out" repeating later, more buried, toward 7:40 or so? Oh, and >back at the beginning, under the other noises, is he saying, "I"? >OK, on to "Underneath the Skin." There's clearly a truncated vocal >sample at 0:42, 0:44, 0:46, 0:48, etc., but I don't know what it is. >Go to 4:01. What's he repeating? Is it "double vision, double vision"? >When he stops at 4:30, talking suddenly appears, moslty in my left ear, >and I cannot understand a word. There may have been more between the >first minute and the 4:00 mark, but if so, it didn't strike me. Also, >in the last minute, there's a sample that plays every few seconds, as >part of the beat, until 6:50, after which time there are, blissfully, >apparently no more vocal samples or lyrics. >I could go back to Halo 8 now and listen to the rest of "Reptile," >and I'll bet there are more hidden samples. For example, off the top >of my head, when he says "She has the blood of reptile just underneath >her skin," the apparently delayed "blood of reptile" may not be what >it appears; I seem to remember that the echo didn't say "reptile." >And under "need to contaminate, to alleviate this loneliness," I >think there were some other sounds that may have been words. And when >the song gets to that soft part about 5 minutes in, I think there >was something that sounds like a word played on a tape recorder, then >the tape recorder is rewound and the word is played again, and so on >a few more times. I forget what the word sounded like. >Observation: I've had enough of this. Someone else take it from here, >or it'll drive me insane, and I can't afford my share of the gas money >right now. Why couldn't you ask about something simple, like "I am an >exit"? >Frivolous theory from someone who desperately needs some sleep: Remember >all those extra lines in the lyric sheet to Pretty Hate Machine? Well, >he recorded those lines for future use, and chopped them up and threw >them all into the various incarnations of "Reptile." If this theory >turns out to be right, I will eat Trent's hat--in fact, I will buy him >a hat and then eat it--but I wanted to mention it just to get it out of >my head.... >-- > ___________ ______________________________________________________________ > / payn@ \ "Let an artist show you how to bring a curse down on Satan" \ >/ scf.usc.edu / --Hilt / >\____________/_____________________________________________________________/ ...You should hear them backwards.